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10 February 2006 @ 11:13 am
Fact:  
Ever since I've been playing World of Warcraft daily, I always fly and save in a pokemon center, believing I'll get boosted experience next time. I also caught myself refering to EV training as "grinding" and runnig around with a team of high level Linoone as "farming".
 
 
 
Professor Hydron: twitchytwitchprofhydron on February 10th, 2006 07:52 pm (UTC)
I've been yelled at to play WOW, but I have dial-up connection and AOL. So I live in the internet stone age. The folks at Blizzard said a few words I disagreed with but eh. Maybe if I get into school I'll pick it up
compulsive pokemon breeder: jaydeis - dragon rageboltbeam on February 10th, 2006 11:07 pm (UTC)
My friend has a mac and plays on dialup. Just curious - what did Blizzard say?

And also, WoW will interfere with your schoolwork by causing you to miss deadlines and stay up all night when you should be resting. It's an addiction.
Professor Hydron: tpp_iconsprofhydron on February 11th, 2006 07:05 am (UTC)
It was kind of stupid, someone made a gay group on WOW, which got gaybashed in a forum or in public, and Blizzard's response was something along the lines of "if you make groups like this, you deserve it" or whatever. Now, eliotdubois explained to me that WOW doesn't really like groups of any kind...Ok, I understand and respect that

But bashing anyone, for any reason, is never acceptable. I find their response and reason to be pretty childish. They lost points on that one with my possible subscription.

Awesome, I mean just about everyone I know plays WOW in real life, even my internet friends do apparently...yeesh ;-)
compulsive pokemon breederboltbeam on February 11th, 2006 07:11 pm (UTC)
Was it this?

Yeah that's pretty dumb. I was on a new server where someone made a guild for female characters (not just female players), and someone reported them for being sexist. I don't know where it went, but it was lame.

Personally, I've played male and female characters and it'd be a cold day in hell before I even revealed whether I was male or female, let alone my sexual orientation, name, or address to people on WoW. I predominantly play with a group of people I know in real life and their friends, and that's worked out for me.

Professor Hydron: inuyasha32profhydron on February 11th, 2006 07:31 pm (UTC)
That article is awesome.

Aren't there like, 1,000s of guilds or whatnot? I mean does it really matter? I don't play the game, I'm legit asking.

Besides, now that I know it wasn't JUST for a certain group of people rather "certain group of people-friendly" Blizzard loses even more points with me. I really don't think they were trying to be exclusive, I mean I know from Netbattle it's difficult not to fit in if you aren't some hetero, white, middle class kid on American gaming networks as a generality.

True, but I mean I don't know if this was revealing anything so much as saying *if you are 'this' type of person, you'll be free from harassment here, everyone may still join* and Blizzard called that harassment of other players? WTF are those guys on, and where can I get some? I mean PLEASE, bitches...try to pretend like you're a respect-worthy gaming empire.

Cool beans, I'm more pissed about the way they handled it, it was really really childish and sounded like a 14 year old's logic back in high school. 'If you so much as acknowledge or remark about what you are in the gaming world, you are inviting bashing' WTF?

I mean if I make a character and go on I have about 50 people through the internet and real life who would help me out there. So it doesn't even apply to me.

I guess if they really want to keep their illusion or escapism well-founded it's not exactly a BAD thing for Blizzard to want to keep real-life-isms out of the game. In fact that's why most people play games, to escape the real world. So I agree with their spirit just not in their assessment. I just disagree with how it was handled and cited. Doesn't matter if the group was black-friendly, jewish-friendly, buddhist-friendly, etc...
compulsive pokemon breeder: jaydeis - dragon rageboltbeam on February 11th, 2006 08:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah, probably more. There are many different realms to play on, some pvp, roleplaying, roleplaying-pvp, and normal, aka "easy mode". In each realm there may be a thousand or more guilds.

I don't see any reason that Blizzard should have done what they did. In the TOS they have provisions for people who discriminate based on race, religion, sexual orientation, ect. The should have shown some backbone and stood up for their policies by defending the guild. If they didn't want to spend the time issuing warnings to the bashers so they just warned the guild leader, then they need to revise their TOS to read "By playing on a WoW realm you are acknowledging that you are fair game for anyone who wants to insult, attack, or bother you. We wash our hands of any responsibility".
Professor Hydron: blackjackrocketprofhydron on February 13th, 2006 12:07 am (UTC)
Heh nice, I'll let you know if I start a character.

If I get into college in April, I'll have to buy a Laptop for it, so maybe then I'll try it out. For a little while anyway.
compulsive pokemon breederboltbeam on February 13th, 2006 07:33 pm (UTC)
Strangely enough, my freind sent me this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4700754.stm
Professor Hydron: inuyasha32profhydron on February 14th, 2006 12:12 pm (UTC)
ok, I've got some problems with that article

-gay rights win? The issue wasn't about gay rights. The issue was did the administrators take appropriate action and correctly cite the problem they claimed was there. They did not, they failed on all counts. They weren't saying "teh gheys suczors and omg sh0uld t0t@lly n0t b mrried". They weren't saying: the gays should really stay away from Warcraft. They mishandled a situation, and the was correcting them. No wonder stupid people think there's a "Gay Agenda"...maybe the BBC is a liberal media, but it's mistaken in this statement.
-lol, gaymers. I'm in that lj community but I had no idea it was taken as a serious term.
-Blizzard defended itself by saying that information about players' real lives can lead to harassment in the game and its warning was only intended to limit such harassment.

Now I know it wasn't worded as such, but I think the administrators that responded were just anti-gay themselves and/or hetero white males in their 30s, as is the majority of game people in power. They threatened with banning, that's not a warning, that's a threat. If they weren't, then they would've just said please, know that we'd prefer if you listed that information elsewhere. Besides, I doubt it would've received notice if this was a clan that said "OMGnogheysaloud".

Please, like people don't like LOLZ or DUDEOMG, when they could be saying "forsooth Xanatraz, let us go smite yonder ogre" or whatnot with these online games. People bring their real lives into it whether they think they are or not.
compulsive pokemon breederboltbeam on February 14th, 2006 08:26 pm (UTC)
Yeah, some of the WoW police are probably pretty conservative. I heard the creators of a guild called Buck Fush were banned after the guild was disbanded by an admin. XD

And if you want to be free of LOLZ and DUDEOMGs, there's always RP realms. I would join one if they weren't all full (which implies to me that some people really do want to leave the world behind when they enter WoW.)
Professor Hydron: inuyasha32profhydron on February 15th, 2006 07:35 am (UTC)
That's just nuts. If you're in a company promoting a product, you really can't afford to alienate any possible buyer. Liberal or conservative alike, you're there to sell, they were there to play. Deal wit it.

I suppose, although that would get tiring after a while. Talking in Shakespearean-esque speak. I suppose so long as it's taken relatively seriously all would fall into place.